I understand that she received one document. This was not certified as a class action lawsuit so the plaintiffs were not settling the cases together. Each plaintiff settled individually, so just because one plaintiff got a certain amount doesn't mean others got it too. The documents were sealed so by definition she couldn't know what each plaintiff received. So again is it just speculation that they all received the same amount and if so that is fine, just say that. But you can't say it as a fact that Watchtower paid out 12.5 million dollars.
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Lawsuit Settlement Amounts
by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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Richard Oliver
Doctrine is up to interpretation. When someone says that another person paid 12.5 million dollars to 13 other people, that would be a fact that can be backed up with actual facts. I am just looking to see if this is based on facts or just speculation and because one person said it then everyone just took it as a fact.
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by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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ScenicViewer I have pointed out where they have stated that these things are facts. And if you based your estimate on something that you have no actual evidence of how can you make an educated estimate of anything. -
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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Richard Oliver
The 2018 convention theme will involve courage. The first and last video is of Anthony Morris and he speaks on the themes of 2016, 2017 and teases the theme of 2018.
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Lawsuit Settlement Amounts
by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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Richard Oliver
Incredulously, by mistake, one California court actually sent me court-sealed settlement papers which revealed that the Watch Tower paid out $781,250 to one victim. Multiplying this figure by 16 victims, the total was an even $12,500,000.
from silentlambs.org
In 2007 seventeen victims received an average of $750,000 each in a legal battle that took six years for them to finally pay up.
Jehovah’s Witnesses Pay *$2,000,000+ to Gag Abuse Victim
They even admit that it is only an estimate but they claim it is based on previous settlements, but no one knows what the previous settlements are.
From JWfacts.org
In 2007, the Watchtower settled 16 child abuse cases, with a total payout estimated to have been $13 million dollars.
So is it that everyone just goes off of the unsubstantiated report by Barbara Anderson and it just keeps going and going. even on this site you can find plenty of references to a 12.5 million dollar settlement for 13 plantiffs.
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by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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Yeah outlaw at least I can speak and don't rely on memes and can't make a coherent argument.
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by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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Richard Oliver
Yes outlaw. Questioning someone who states something as an absolute fact to show proof how dare I.
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Lawsuit Settlement Amounts
by Richard Oliver ini have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
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Richard Oliver
I have a legitimate question and I am not trying to start a fight. I keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars. How do people like Barbara Anderson or JWSurvey or JWFacts come up with this number? It was a sealed number is this just pure speculation and what you hope it cost. The Fessler final settlement was sealed but there were reports that the initial offer was about $150K, the Lopez initial settlement offer was 66K, according to court documents. So how do you come up with these numbers?
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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017
by Edison Trent inshort info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.
festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.
all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..
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Richard Oliver
This is going to be a pretty easy one to confirm or not confirm. If people report it happening to a number of sites including at assembly hall sites then it is an organisational directive if not it is probably specific to the site and what the management of that site requires to rent out space.
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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017
by Edison Trent inshort info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.
festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.
all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..
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Richard Oliver
This is probably based on the requirements set out by the venue that the convention is being held at.